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preprint2026arXiv

Position: Zeroth-Order Optimization in Deep Learning Is Underexplored, Not Underpowered

Zeroth-order (ZO) optimization, learning from finite differences of function evaluations without backpropagation, has recently regained attention in deep learning due to its memory efficiency and applicability to gray- or black-box pipelines. Yet, ZO methods are often dismissed as fundamentally unscalable because of estimator variance and unfavorable query complexity. We argue that this conclusion might be misguided: ZO optimization is underexplored, not underpowered. We show that many perceived limitations stem from myopic development practices, most notably full-space, element-wise, estimator-centric designs. We articulate six positions spanning the algorithmic, systems, and evaluation stack. First, we revisit the feasibility boundaries of estimator-centric ZO methods through variance control, variance-query tradeoffs, and directional-derivative lenses. Then, we identify three underexplored opportunities: (i) subspace and spectral views of ZO that enable interpretable variance reduction with graceful query scaling, (ii) the forward-only nature of ZO as a systems advantage for communication-efficient, pipeline-friendly, and resource-constrained training, and (iii) the need to de-obfuscate ZO evaluations from task complexity. We strongly advocate rethinking ZO optimization around its unique strengths and acting accordingly, opening a viable path toward large-scale, system-aware, and resource-efficient learning with ZO optimization.

preprint2026arXiv

Rethinking Muon Beyond Pretraining: Spectral Failures and High-Pass Remedies for VLA and RLVR

Muon is a matrix-aware optimizer that leverages Newton-Schulz (NS) iterations to enforce spectral gradient orthogonalization by driving all singular values of the momentum matrix toward 1. While this uniform spectral whitening enhances exploration and outperforms AdamW in LLM pretraining, we show it could lead to fundamental limitations beyond pretraining in two regimes: (i) cross-modality vision-language-action (VLA) training, where inherently low-rank action-module gradients cause amplification of noisy tail directions, and (ii) reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR), where low-SNR gradients and the need to preserve per-head specialization from prior training make whitening unstable. To address these challenges, we propose Pion, a drop-in replacement for Muon that preserves its computational efficiency while replacing uniform spectral whitening with a two-stage Promotion+Suppression mechanism, which we call the high-pass NS iteration. This design induces a sharp spectral high-pass effect, anchoring dominant singular values at 1 while suppressing noisy tail components toward 0, with controllable filter strength. To preserve pretrained per-head heterogeneity, Pion also supports a per-head mode that applies updates independently across attention heads via a simple reshape, at no extra cost. In VLA training on LIBERO and LIBERO-Plus, Pion consistently outperforms both baselines across l_1-regression (VLA-Adapter) and flow-matching (VLANeXt) architectures, e.g., reaching 100% success rate on LIBERO Object after 1,500 training steps with VLA-Adapter, vs. 97.0% for Muon and only 32.2% for AdamW. The advantage of Pion further extends to a real Franka Research 3 robot with a pi_0.5 backbone under the DROID setup on three grasp-and-place tasks. In RLVR post-training on Qwen3-1.7B/4B with GRPO and GMPO, Pion also outperforms AdamW on MATH and GSM8K while Muon collapses to zero.

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